tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3460872158746272748.post1008964276261102905..comments2023-02-06T08:58:05.387-08:00Comments on The Million: The most expensive funeral in history: Alexander of Macedon mourns his dearest friend HephaestionCarlos Madeirahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15752054820850549510noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3460872158746272748.post-41197999237128790822017-01-22T19:12:24.254-08:002017-01-22T19:12:24.254-08:00In ancient Hellas. "Greece"In ancient Hellas. "Greece"Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01689310300183263652noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3460872158746272748.post-6571096806528675192017-01-22T19:11:15.237-08:002017-01-22T19:11:15.237-08:00Damianos in ancient Greece was very common the hom...Damianos in ancient Greece was very common the homosexual relationshipsAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01689310300183263652noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3460872158746272748.post-80274447825042729532017-01-22T19:10:31.034-08:002017-01-22T19:10:31.034-08:00Damianos in ancient Greece was very common the hom...Damianos in ancient Greece was very common the homosexual relationshipsAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01689310300183263652noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3460872158746272748.post-81845537732398983302016-03-12T02:36:41.193-08:002016-03-12T02:36:41.193-08:00there is a confusion with 'barbarians'here...there is a confusion with 'barbarians'here.Greeks used the term to describe non greek speakers.It is obvious from ancient greek literature that the considered both the egyptians and the persians civilised(see the play'persians'for example.The use of the term to describe non civilised peoples is later,and begun with RomeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3460872158746272748.post-59954157506999738352016-02-26T04:37:58.321-08:002016-02-26T04:37:58.321-08:00When you say 'barbarians will always barbarian...When you say 'barbarians will always barbarians' do you mean 'barbarians' in the ancient Greek sense or as synonyme for 'not civilised/ savages' ? If you are equating the 'bararians' in the ancient Greek sense to 'uncivilised /savages, it won't do since Persians, Egyptians, Indians and Chinese were already highly civilised at that time. I agree about theatre but poetry is very ancient elsewhere too. Did the ancient Greek invent Architecture ?!!! Egyptian architectural realisations are very ancient, Achaemenid Persipolis ruins still look impressive and Megasthenes, the 4th century BC Greek envoy of Seleucus to India says that even Susa did not compare favorably with Pataliputra, the capital of Maurya empire. Well, ancient Greece was a great civilisation but there were not the only great, there were others at that time too. Kalpana Nourissonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14702971269095661291noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3460872158746272748.post-84775425045703431972016-02-17T04:58:48.512-08:002016-02-17T04:58:48.512-08:00THATS CORRECT....HE MEANS MACEDONIANS AND OTHER GR...THATS CORRECT....HE MEANS MACEDONIANS AND OTHER GREEKS.POTIS521https://www.blogger.com/profile/13338968234856645612noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3460872158746272748.post-25427211576572630442016-02-16T05:31:46.094-08:002016-02-16T05:31:46.094-08:00Please consider to put Alexander's wars into t...Please consider to put Alexander's wars into the right context, it was not simply imperialistic. Persia had massacred the Greek states for centuries before Alexander United the Greeks and went after the Persian empire. This does not justify the means but it is a vital component when trying to understand history. People who express opinions on such a complex character such as Alexander usually get stuck in contemporary cliches and preconceptions such as the killings and his sexuality. Understand that in his time these elements were almost trivial. You have to be a 300bc scholar first and then offer opinion.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10555915779061934690noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3460872158746272748.post-6936775507991514062016-02-15T15:39:42.803-08:002016-02-15T15:39:42.803-08:00Thank you very much, Kerry. I just started one mon...Thank you very much, Kerry. I just started one month ago and I was really surprised by the number of visits and reactions on this page. I never expected to achieve over 10,000 visits in just one month. I will keep writing once a week.Carlos Madeirahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15752054820850549510noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3460872158746272748.post-21128622002582976892016-02-15T06:04:24.229-08:002016-02-15T06:04:24.229-08:00Dear Carlos,
I read your Bio and this interesting ...Dear Carlos,<br />I read your Bio and this interesting article.<br />I would like to read more from you but PLEASE start from the basics than you do articles for Ancient Greece. Macedonians ARE Greek, do not fall on this trap that uneducated people do for their own reasons...<br />Thank you !Kerry Kinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08681339910557614035noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3460872158746272748.post-53365724161924128382016-02-15T05:58:47.337-08:002016-02-15T05:58:47.337-08:00Well said !!!!!!Well said !!!!!!Kerry Kinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08681339910557614035noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3460872158746272748.post-62581959347147997472016-02-13T15:03:16.357-08:002016-02-13T15:03:16.357-08:00I was about to comment that as well, its like sayi...I was about to comment that as well, its like saying americans and new yorkers which is the same thingAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3460872158746272748.post-23499867393712578212016-02-13T09:39:19.204-08:002016-02-13T09:39:19.204-08:00Thanks for expressing your opinion about Alexander...Thanks for expressing your opinion about Alexander. These "facts" as you present them already exist out there in the literature written by those who admire and those who hate Alexander. You haven't added much in either information or insight.georgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09110997790274660167noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3460872158746272748.post-26108820848701215812016-02-13T05:40:44.847-08:002016-02-13T05:40:44.847-08:00What does "Macedonian and Greek soldiers"...What does "Macedonian and Greek soldiers" mean ? <br />Macedonian ARE greek soldiers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3460872158746272748.post-91465447172006849622016-02-13T02:57:57.087-08:002016-02-13T02:57:57.087-08:00Dear reader, I understand your point about the com...Dear reader, I understand your point about the comparison of Greeks with other peoples of the time. The article refers to that when I mention that Macedonians merely replicated war actions that were used by everyone in their age. I am also not trying to degrade the fame and valor of Alexander. I merely point out that Hollywood movies and many novels portray an incomplete portrait of the man and his age. That was an age where men enslaved women and children. Movies and novels write a half-truth when they overly romanticize ancient wars that caused many casualties and pain.Carlos Madeirahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15752054820850549510noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3460872158746272748.post-18669937821125764002016-02-13T00:46:59.456-08:002016-02-13T00:46:59.456-08:00And since Alexander was a tyrrant, why people in P...And since Alexander was a tyrrant, why people in Persia Pakistan and all these areas valued and honored Greeks the most?<br />Why as the ORIGINAL historians say he married his officers and soldiers with locals?<br />You need to understand a few things first, at those time (and even now) in teems of Ithos (moral value) the Greeks were by far better than the rest.<br />Second, in Ancient Greece slaves were not the slaves that we think of the Roman times or even worse in the South US before the civil war, or even the slaves the Dutch French or British had in the conquistadors times and of course not the ones Muslims mean.<br />In most cities of Greece, Athens and the Ionian cities for sure, slaves were almost better than todays workers.<br />for instance the "owner" could would not take his slave's life for no reason and they would not "throw away" an old and useless slave but keep him.<br />So if that was the treatment to slaves you really think it was worse to the rest of the people that were by Alexander proclaimed as free men?<br />(of as stands until our times, if you try to rebel you would be punished).<br />.<br />So besides not giving them the right to vote and send a King away what were the tyrrant part?<br />.<br />I would think that besides you really beautyfull description of the burial (which in some ways reminded me of the description of Achliles shirld by Homer) for the rest you need to use other resourses too, as after 1990's there were many so called "historians" wrote numerous books trying to slowly degrade the fame and valor of Alexander the Great but you need to ask yourself, why did this information came to the surface by that time and not before?<br />what changed?<br />did anybody time traveled and got new info, or it us just another try to discredit a truly great man?<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09184792213649147012noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3460872158746272748.post-15791911926498732062016-02-12T20:59:21.877-08:002016-02-12T20:59:21.877-08:001. Have you seen the cruelty of modern wars? Human...1. Have you seen the cruelty of modern wars? Human nature has not changed. War is a war.<br />2. His sexuality is unknown as yours mine or everyone else. So why do you bring it up? If you had prepared an article for Napoleon would you also bring it up? Unnecessary to write about. <br />3. May I remind you that although cruel he was the only one worshipped like God until nowadays? <br />I have read similar comments from others. This should concern you. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3460872158746272748.post-76096052674730638192016-02-12T18:55:14.178-08:002016-02-12T18:55:14.178-08:00"However, for all their brutality ancient men..."However, for all their brutality ancient men also valued friendship and art in ways as strong as we do." <br /><br />The writer is obviously confused in his views of our social values and standards both then and now.<br /><br />The genocide that happens today around the world in the name of 'democracy' is no less brutal. <br />Take afghanistan, Libya, syria amd Iraq. The operations being planned today against Iran 'modern Persia' will be even more brutal and the 'smart bombs' more indiscriminate of womem and children. Also it is entirely for pillaging their oil reserves. Alexander at least had the honor, as you say to step into the battle.<br /><br />Friendship then was friendship. Less can be said for our vacant facebook friendships. And finally art.. this was glorious in all realms unlike the art in our disposable vacant Bieber culture. Not only the Greeks appreciated it but they invented it. They invented architecture, theatre, oratory, poetry. Our society today lacks the aesthetics, our entertainment is vulgar and disposable as are the products we furiously consume end up as toxic land fills. Our garments and appliances are manufactured by modern slave labor. In our own cities people starve and die on the streets.<br /><br />So to all those who think that humanity has evolved since ancient Greece, think again. Our proud western civilization would have been viewed by the Greeks as a self-flattering and self-destructive, exhausting, emotionally unstable flock of ostrogoths, vizigoths, vikings and other barbarians with technology. Ipads that we're waiting to pounce on eachother in a que for the latest model.<br /><br />Finally on homosexuality, I'm not sure why this is the one and only detail that every seems to dwell on. Homosexuality as we identify it today didnt exist in ancient Greece. It was identified more as a behavioral phase or even one of learning and mentoring. There was not the stigma or social pressure seen today for one to have to 'come out' and define and label himself as 'homosexual'. So there was nothing to chuckle about or to parade about either! <br /><br />We have a lot to learn from the ancient Greeks. One first thing is that man is unchanged by time and all epochs amd that darwinian theory is misanthropic. A second is that barbarians will always be barbarians and the civilized will be civilized.<br /><br />Aris<br /><br />Source: I'm GreekAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3460872158746272748.post-37801460249756793002016-02-12T12:13:34.699-08:002016-02-12T12:13:34.699-08:00Dear reader, if you read carefully there is nothin...Dear reader, if you read carefully there is nothing implied about the sexuality behaviour of Alexander. In fact the text explicitly writes that we cannot know for certain and therefore any of us can hold different opinions on the matter.<br /><br />Also, in relation to your previous comment. The post does not imply Alexander the Great was a weak man. In fact he was clearly one of the most influential men in history. No general in history was as successful as Alexander. Alexander and Phillip his father were also brave because they led their army from the front line themselves. After them no one can say the same, neither Caesar, Heraclitus or Napoleon led their armies from the front. This will be the subject of a new post in a few weeks.<br /><br />The post only meant to remind readers that Alexander's age (not just Greeks, but Romans and Persians and everyone else) was a cruel one. It was an age when children and women were enslaved as animals. This is something Hollywood does not show and that I wanted to remind readersCarlos Madeirahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15752054820850549510noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3460872158746272748.post-53704046139768959362016-02-12T09:51:43.079-08:002016-02-12T09:51:43.079-08:00It is beyond most gnostics that to taint the great...It is beyond most gnostics that to taint the greatest with homo behaviour,,, you obviously have an absence of presence,,,Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3460872158746272748.post-66638478790296637822016-02-12T08:24:32.342-08:002016-02-12T08:24:32.342-08:00lover? Where can one find relative information?lover? Where can one find relative information?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3460872158746272748.post-79574643220462976912016-02-11T20:11:29.803-08:002016-02-11T20:11:29.803-08:00And I wonder how you have so many information for ...And I wonder how you have so many information for the funeral and you don't know if hyfaistion was his best friend or lover <br /><br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12771590125483070389noreply@blogger.com